A little context:
\nErik is the guy who asked (or demanded rather) that I sign up for the [-=I.S=-] Clan Forums so it would be easier for him to send out notices of Clan practices and matches. Although I don’t like forums very much, I complied because it made his life easier, and it was really not very hard for me. Then, this…<\/p>\n
I guess he’ll have to email me now…<\/p>\n
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Erik: is there a meeting tomorow\/
\nErik: ?
\nRyan: neg
\nRyan: next is Friday the 7th
\nErik: damn
\nErik: ok
\nRyan: parents meeting the 6th
\nErik: when is the kcikoff?
\nRyan: 8th
\nErik: lol ok
\nRyan: its going to b e the 6 days of the TRC
\nRyan: Wednesday is leadership, then thrusday is parents, the friday is students, then saturday is kickoff, then sunday is strategy meeting, then monday is first build meeting (maybe)
\nErik: saturday is stragey too :)
\nErik: but that is fun
\nErik: to tell you the truth that is my fav part
\nRyan: yeah
\nErik: the first 2 days
\nRyan: because you wave your arms a lot and then slack off the rest of the time? :-)
\nErik: I really do not enjoy coding, and even phisical building does not interest me all that much
\nErik: lol I was a VERY good arm waver!
\nRyan: well, what does interest you?
\nRyan: thats what we want to find
\nRyan: first two days
\nRyan: what else?
\nErik: lol idk after that
\nRyan: you participate with the TRC cause of the first two days?
\nRyan: you seem to like making web pages
\nErik: I like the desgning part, but as you well know some times you have to shoot the engienr
\nRyan: but you don’t want to work on the web site
\nRyan: you seem to like computers
\nErik: never said that (site)
\nRyan: but you don’t want to program or use any of the TRC’s thousands of dollars of software
\nErik: I said I did not want to take over the site
\nRyan: ah
\nRyan: kk
\nRyan: well, I’m working on the site now
\nErik: fun fun
\nErik: so, waht could I do for the site?
\nErik: oh, and I would be very interested in fundraising, jsut not a leadership role in it
\nRyan: help me find things that need to be updated
\nErik: when does FIRST tell us?
\nErik: one big thing, the sponsorship thing needs to be in the menu
\nRyan: when does FIRST tell us what?
\nErik: what we need for het website award
\nRyan: what sponsorship thing?
\nRyan: January 8th
\nErik: the thing that tells ppl how to sponsor us
\nRyan: everything happens on January 8th
\nErik: it is onl the right hand
\nErik: banner
\nRyan: ah
\nRyan: ok
\nRyan: I see what you mean
\nErik: it needs to be in the menu, yah
\nRyan: join up to TRC-web mailing list
\nRyan: and send out a list :-)
\nErik: why? I can talk to like this easyer
\nErik: and am more likely to really do it
\nErik: the mailing list menu does not work
\nErik: or is there no menu?
\nErik: cuz it makes it look liek it, but nothign drops down
\nRyan: its just a link
\nRyan: and the reason for using the mailing lists
\nErik: well that seems like slightly bad design to me
\nRyan: is so that there is a trail
\nRyan: of what we did and why
\nErik: I keep logs
\nRyan: so that in the future
\nRyan: people can look back
\nRyan: and see what happened
\nRyan: so they don’t have to reinvent the wheel every year
\nErik: and it takes about 500 times more time
\nRyan: you exagerate
\nErik: yes
\nErik: but really, alteast 50
\nErik: it takes about 10sec to see something and send it to you
\nErik: so maybe like 25
\nErik: which is still allot
\nErik: more than I want to spend
\nErik: on something that seems to work for me
\nErik: ok, big point
\nRyan: well, I won’t remember what you said here in a few minutes
\nErik: our site serves almost no point
\nRyan: but in an email, I see it over and over until I fix get to it
\nErik: the only thing useful is the update thing on the left
\nRyan: “our site serves almost no point” how so?
\nRyan: hm
\nErik: very liitle of it serves a useful perpous
\nErik: do u see what I am saying?
\nRyan: only a little bit
\nRyan: I mean
\nRyan: pictures are useful
\nErik: not really
\nErik: how does that serve makeing a robot?
\nRyan: we sued those pictures for making the brochure
\nErik: ok
\nErik: but they dont need ot be on a site
\nRyan: hm, you seem to have missed 95% of the point of FIRST
\nErik: maybe
\nRyan: another child left behind…
\nErik: but I am sure pictures is not that great a role
\nErik: what is the word for jobs that are created but serve no useful perpous outside of themselves; i.e. a farmer = useful, a banker is not
\nErik: there is a word
\nRyan: service industry?
\nErik: no
\nErik: there is an edjective
\nErik: adjective*
\nRyan: but that entire notion is wrong. A banker is useful
\nErik: not if money is not
\nErik: money does not feed people
\nErik: that is the point
\nRyan: well, last time I checked, people buy food with money.
\nErik: but I was not trying to prove the point, I wanted to know the word
\nErik: but the money is exes
\nRyan: haha, I know. but every time we talk, it boils down to politics
\nRyan: superfluous?
\nErik: why not get rid of the money and send them to help were it really is
\nErik: no
\nRyan: wait, what’s your idea?
\nErik: it is NOT a common word
\nRyan: get rid of money, so we’re back to a barter economy?
\nRyan: I’m afraid I don’t know the word you’re talking about. Its not in my vernacular
\nErik: well hehe it really all goes back to comunism but maybe that ais a steping stone
\nRyan: well, go found your little communist paradise, but leave me out of it please
\nErik: I only leaned it about 1 year ago, forgot, but I have a pretty damn big vocab
\nErik: dont worry… your not invted :)
\nRyan: you sure use a lot of four letter words so someone so blessed with a large vocabulary
\nRyan: *\/for someone\/
\nErik: lol
\nErik: that is because most words can be expressed with a few 4 letter ones
\nErik: and one carries more weight with most ppl, and its the latter
\nRyan: and I guess you just have that many important things to say
\nErik: ?
\nErik: hehe ok
\nRyan: :-)
\nRyan: but
\nRyan: what were we talking about?
\nRyan: you think the entire point of the web site is to facilitate building a robot?
\nErik: I guese not
\nErik: but I dont thing it does anything for FIRST
\nErik: either
\nErik: like for example the pictures
\nRyan: I don’t care about FIRST. I like the mission, but I’m actully pretty ambivalent about the mechanism. I do care about the TRC, though
\nErik: ok, so waht do TRC students get out of the site?
\nErik: like, again, for example the pictures
\nRyan: They can show people what they’re talking about from anywhere in the world. But its not neccesarily for TRC members
\nRyan: it could be to show to other people what the TRC does
\nRyan: for example
\nErik: other than fundraising why do we care?
\nErik: if its for the TRC
\nRyan: Well, I guess fundraising isn’t an important enough reason on its own. People browse the pictures. Other teams browse them. Strangers browse them. Perhaps it could be done better, more like a story, but they are a point of itnerest. Picture albums always are. Maybe they don’t appeal to you, but I’m glad we have them, because they do appeal to some people
\nRyan: “Well, I guess fundraising isn’t an important enough reason on its own.” < ---- that was sarcasm, btw\nErik: jsut cuz ppl brows them does not make them helpful to the TRC first\nErik: second, how many fundraisies' desicions do you sincerly believe really hing on how great our site is\nRyan: 1. It helped win two webite awards. That was useful, (maybe). \nRyan: 2. None (or maybe one, maybe)\nErik: i dont really thik so\nRyan: you can think whatever you want, I guess?\nErik: yep\nRyan: you don't have to contribute to the photo albums\nErik: its your decision wether that matters to you\nRyan: You don't have to look at the images\nErik: nope\nRyan: you can use a firefox plugin to block them in fact\nErik: but just cuz I do not drive the robot does not mean I can write buggy code\nRyan: uh, what? explain?\nErik: I mean, so much time is spent on this site (that could be spent doing something I would believe to be of more value) and I don't believe we get anything out of it\nErik: bad analogy\nErik: I think we have beat this point past death\nRyan: well, what's a more useful activity than working on the site?\nRyan: I've spent about 2 hours on it in the past several months\nErik: well at the current time funraising\nErik: ok\nRyan: well, go raise money. I'm burned out raising money.\nErik: how long u spent on rasing money?\nRyan: about the last 5 years\nErik: no come on, how many hrs you think this season?\nRyan: maybe 100\nErik: that is like more than all our leadership combined\nRyan: yes\nRyan: and amy's spent more time than that\nErik: 100?\nRyan: more\nErik: and we havce raised 50$?!?!\nErik: maybe we should all just go out and get \"TRC jobs\"\nRyan: a little more than that\nRyan: maybe you should, yeah\nRyan: I already have one\nRyan: as do dave and Larry\nErik: your being anoying\nErik: and I tihnk you know why\nRyan: what do you mean by that exactly? How much have you contributed to the TRC recently?\nErik: like 1hr\nRyan: thats pretty good\nErik: and I mean you are being anoying as in you know exaclt what I mean\nRyan: more than our CEO\nRyan: actually, I have no idea\nErik: isnt Cheuk taken over that job\nErik: usualy you have a clue\nErik: but decide to take the other ruite\nRyan: wait\nRyan: you mean the \"TRC jobs\" things?\nErik: yes\nErik: jobs to gain money for the TRC\nRyan: yeah, but what am I being annoying about\nErik: you guys jobs are not for the TRC\nRyan: I do have a TRC job - its flexible enough for me to spend time with the TRC and I contribute a fairly large amount of money to the club. Same with Dave and LArry\nRyan: Their time is worth a lot more than mine too\nErik: yes, but your job intent is NOT the TRC\nRyan: is it not?\nErik: I believe not\nRyan: I could be going to school someplace out of town, but I choose not to. I could be working in alaska for twice this, but I choose not to. I could put in 40 or more hours a week, but I choose not to, for one major reason\nErik: yes ik\nErik: but the intent of you getting a job, maybe it could be a dif one, but I do not believe your intent in take thing a job in general is gaining money for the TRC\nRyan: as in, I keep more than I give to the TRC in terms of money, this is true\nErik: well not my point but ok\nRyan: but I really don't think your in a position to be questioning my dedication\nErik: I never said I was\nErik: you lead us down this road not me\nRyan: and sometimes I wonder why I try\nErik: one thing we both can agree on\nErik: as I am really tired of fighting you on everypoint, onto another issue, have you ever used trinux?\nRyan: nope\nErik: damn\nAttempt to warn #1: *** Error while sending IM: Request denied\nAttempt to warn #2: *** Error while sending IM: Request denied\nSuccessful block: *** \"Erik\" signed off at Thu Dec 16 23:44:46 2004.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A little context: Erik is the guy who asked (or demanded rather) that I sign up for the [-=I.S=-] Clan Forums so it would be easier for him to send out notices of Clan practices and matches. 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